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  I need to know please.....

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  2. friends

  i've sent quite a few new pms on a number of subjects but had no responses.

  am i being ignored or is there some sort of it problem?

  i don't want to be a pest and nag....but if it is an it problem i'd like to get it fixed.

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  Some dont look at their PMs regularly.

  You will see loads of threads with titles like

  "outsmartthesystem you have a PM". to draw their attention.
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  Are they really that weak willed?

  by jean-luc picard in

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  2. friends

  mr falcons thread on jw partys made me think about my new family's get togethers.. once or twice a year, we have a get together/picnic ( around 40 or 50 mostly family ).. we drink quite a bit of wine/ pernod ( our wives or 'sometimes husbands) drive home ).

  i have never heard crude talk.

  people sware a bit, but in an amusing kind of way.

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  Mr Falcons thread on jw partys made me think about my new family's get togethers.

  Once or twice a year, we have a get together/picnic ( around 40 or 50 mostly family ).

  We drink quite a bit of wine/ pernod ( our wives or 'sometimes husbands) drive home )

  I have never heard crude talk. People sware a bit, but in an amusing kind of way. We all have a great time.

  One person only, always gets blind drunk and is sick after the first hour. We dont approve of his drinking in excess

  but NO ONE has EVER dreamed of not inviting him because he is "bad association."

  One other young cousin is always spaced out. Hes very nice ( maybe the drugs). Has just become a dad. His wife is charming and interesting to talk to.

  No one approves of his taking drugs, but it has never even crossed our thoughts to not invite him.

  We are not going to start binge drinking, or taking drugs, just because we are associating with them.

  Are JWs really so weak willed that they believe that the presence of someone who is not exactly like them, even if it is someone they love, is going to make them fall into a life of god forsaken debauchery? If it is the case, then they are the feeblist of people.

  In the words of Karen Carpenter: "you've got to love me for what I am, for simply being me".
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  Review and Comments on the New Elders Book

  by MrDarkKnight in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the new elders manual.

  my father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the service department told him it was on the internet so i eagerly looked for it and found it.

  yes, i know it was a violation of copyright, but while at bethel i made copies of many technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the wts hypocrisy does not concern me.. i was appointed as an elder the year the pay attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so i have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books.

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  Pornea is

  " not a casual touching of
  the sex organs but involves the manipulation of the
  genitals." p59

  So you can touch but you cant manipulate.
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  What has the WT$ TAKEN from you?

  by VampireDCLXV in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you've been around here long enough, you will have seen people saying how they "gave up" or "sacrificed" certain things so that they could be good little jws.

  what about those of us who were growing up in it and we didn't even have a choice in the matter?

  what about those of us from whom some things in life were forcibly ripped away, things that 'normal' people take for granted in their life?.

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  The road I followed has led me to where I am now, and as I like very much where I am now, as leavingwt says,

  I wouldn't go back and alter history.

  I didnt always feel that way. Dating after leaving the borg wasnt easy. But then non exjws also have some dificulty there. I used to be jealous as hell of my wifes past sexual experiences. That was difficult to come to terms with, but I have found my peace there too.

  I can easily get very angry at the WTB$, but I try to avoid harping on it. It wouldnt change a thing fot them as they dont care, but it would spoil my day.
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  HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!

  by jdhf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.

  he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??

  they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.

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  jdhf, you have a PM.
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  HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!

  by jdhf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.

  he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??

  they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.

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  Its pretty plain that its the old blackmail thing.

  If they babysit, then withholding that could make life difficult for your friend.

  However, I imagine that after some time, the grandparents would come round and start being available for their grandchild.

  I sure know that NOBODY would tell me I couldnt see my grandchildren anymore.

  Who knows, it could be the start of the road to freedom for everyone in the family.

  PS: the only problem eventually is that they might well try preaching to their grandson........
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  If you have sex with your spouse after you find out he/she cheated on you, you cannot divorce them.

  by Chemical Emotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the key to family happiness book, the wbts says that if you have sex with your marriage mate after they cheat on you, and you knew it, you cannot divorce them.. i was disgusted by learning that.

  i only discovered this recently, but i am very angry.

  what if your husand tells you that he'll keep screwing other women if you don't have sex with him?

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  Remember the old days when Oral and Anal sex were not considered sexual relations and not worthy of

  allowing a divorce?

  Ah, those were the days.
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  How Many on JWNet are still JWs?

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been wondering about this for some time.

  if there are 60,000+ registered users on here, what percentage are actual non-dfed or non-daed witnesses?

  if it was 1/3, that would be over 20,000 active/inactive witnesses that post and read these pages- and that's huge.

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  jean-luc picard

  Its hard now but, it stands to reason that you wont always be a JW.

  I believe that there is a right moment in life, and when that comes you will know how to seize it.

  In the end, one has to be true to himself, not to others. In the mean time, I wish you all good luck,

  and a measure of peace.
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  I'm new here..... Studying with the Witnesses

  by PenelopePaige in

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  2. friends

  hi- i just wanted to say that i have been checking the website out for a few weeks and have read some horror stories and some sad ones.

  but i have been studying with witnessess for about six months and can't help but feel that they're completely sincere and maybe even, the true religion.

  i love the watchtower and awake and to me, none of that seems crazy.

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  jean-luc picard

  Hi Penelope.

  My husband is begging me to stop the bible study

  I think you should listen to him. JWs DO break families. I was in for 30 or more years. I used to say to people that that wasnt true. But I lied. I didnt lie deliberatley, but I lied just the same.

  You say that they seem nice, sincere people. Thats true. But THEYRE WRONG. Sincerity is not enough.

  More than 70000 people are disfellowshipped each year. Believe me, that for most of them, that screws up their life big time.

  If you like studing the bible, there are many oportunities JWs aside. But beware too: there are a lot of dangerous sects. Be careful.

  Peace to you.
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  i need to know if jehovahs witnesses are actually told to ....

  by looloo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  completly ignore disfellowshipped children and never speak at all to them , also what about the children of the disfellowshipped children that are growing up unaware of the "truth " ?

  im thinking of writing to my inlaws who have never bothered with our child for two and a half years to tell them to just walk on by if they see us as it would confuse her if they saw us and acted as though nothing has happened .

  then they will be good jws and obediant to the watchtower and not blame us for not letting them see her which is what they lie and tell people !.

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  i have tried many ways to get them to see the reality of what they are doing but to no avail and now its just too late !

  i dont want thier sicko religion messing up my childs mind ever

  ! like it did mine and my husbands . i now actually want them to ignore us all . and by doing so they will be good jws ! problem solved !

  BRAVO!